I don't care who it is that you have met, or are striving to meet: Be it your girlfriend's dad, the President of the U.S, a band, or a Nascar driver, they are all JUST people. Real, tangible, people. It sounds cliche, but I'm so damn serious. That is why I hate people's desires for autographs and all that other nonsensical bull****, just to prove they've met them. Take a picture with them, drink a beer with them, give them a handjob they'll never forget, like something you would do with your, already close, friends. Maybe some of these people are down for all the attention, but my best bet is, they just want to be treated and respected like anyone else. So you shouldn't be anymore nervous to talk to Jerry than the kid that sits next to you in your bio lab. While I'll admit, Jerry has accomplished so many things and deserves respect and admiration, don't turn him into some kind of unattainable icon. He's just plain and simple, a great guy. Infact, I can't say I've ever met a more genuine and sincere group of guys in my entire life. I have never heard so many appreciative "pleases" and "thank yous". I remember Jerry washing his hands before he ate and THEN washing off his dishes when he was done! I was astounded, my FRIENDS dont even do that! John ran into the store to get something to drink and asked me if I wanted anything. Dan called me a fag once or twice. For me to be completely comfortable with 6 guys that I've never met really says something. I'm so glad they came all the way out to bro down and play an awesome show in the hot and ****ty desert, because I had one of the best times of my life, and I made a few life-long friends. Jerry, I still remember, like it was yesterday, how pristine you looked out by my pool...wet body glistening in the sun, hair blowing carelessly, shorts almost revealing...I need a cold shower...or a hose. Bye all.
haha I'm not turning him into some unattainable icon and I don't want their autographs I'd just like to thank him for his words. He seems like the type of guy that you could sit down with and have amazing conversations with. I'm not shy because I'd be talking to jerry or a band, just anyone in general haha. I can't even talk to the kid who sits next to me in bio. It's probably a disease :(
fall for life wrote: Houdini_The Great wrote: I don't want to meet them just so I can say I met them. I want to have a conversation with them to learn things. To experience things. Meeting our idols is how we master ourselves. I don't need their autographs (though i'll take if they offer). These are people that I look up to, so meeting them makes that all the more real.
yeah exactly how i feel
yeah, we're basically like the same person.
The Alchemist just made cum.
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Trigger Flamenco wrote: haha I'm not turning him into some unattainable icon and I don't want their autographs I'd just like to thank him for his words. He seems like the type of guy that you could sit down with and have amazing conversations with. I'm not shy because I'd be talking to jerry or a band, just anyone in general haha. I can't even talk to the kid who sits next to me in bio. It's probably a disease :(
It's called "being anti-social"
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patrock wrote: I don't care who it is that you have met, or are striving to meet: Be it your girlfriend's dad, the President of the U.S, a band, or a Nascar driver, they are all JUST people. Real, tangible, people. It sounds cliche, but I'm so damn serious. That is why I hate people's desires for autographs and all that other nonsensical bull****, just to prove they've met them. Take a picture with them, drink a beer with them, give them a handjob they'll never forget, like something you would do with your, already close, friends. Maybe some of these people are down for all the attention, but my best bet is, they just want to be treated and respected like anyone else. So you shouldn't be anymore nervous to talk to Jerry than the kid that sits next to you in your bio lab. While I'll admit, Jerry has accomplished so many things and deserves respect and admiration, don't turn him into some kind of unattainable icon. He's just plain and simple, a great guy. Infact, I can't say I've ever met a more genuine and sincere group of guys in my entire life. I have never heard so many appreciative "pleases" and "thank yous". I remember Jerry washing his hands before he ate and THEN washing off his dishes when he was done! I was astounded, my FRIENDS dont even do that! John ran into the store to get something to drink and asked me if I wanted anything. Dan called me a fag once or twice. For me to be completely comfortable with 6 guys that I've never met really says something. I'm so glad they came all the way out to bro down and play an awesome show in the hot and ****ty desert, because I had one of the best times of my life, and I made a few life-long friends. Jerry, I still remember, like it was yesterday, how pristine you looked out by my pool...wet body glistening in the sun, hair blowing carelessly, shorts almost revealing...I need a cold shower...or a hose. Bye all.
Patrock's so right. I just started talking to Andy and Brian out of the blue (I'd talk to the rest on aim if I had their screen names)... and Dan too. Lol, but Dan got n00dz because of this board. Anyway, I just talk about random crap... They probably think, I'm stupid because most people do upon first impression. It's my M.O. though... I'm a social butterfly and I'm really great at working the dinner party circuit, so I don't know if that helps. But yeah, I like talking about stupid stuff... and I don't remember my point. When I do meet them this summer, it will be cool. I'm halfway tempted to follow them on tour.
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Patrock's so right. I just started talking to Andy and Brian out of the blue (I'd talk to the rest on aim if I had their screen names)... and Dan too. Lol, but Dan got n00dz because of this board. Anyway, I just talk about random crap... They probably think, I'm stupid because most people do upon first impression. It's my M.O. though... I'm a social butterfly and I'm really great at working the dinner party circuit, so I don't know if that helps. But yeah, I like talking about stupid stuff... and I don't remember my point. When I do meet them this summer, it will be cool. I'm halfway tempted to follow them on tour.
I have all their sns but I never talk to them (well, i talked to brian once a long time ago). I just never know what's important enough to IM. I don't want to seem like just an annoying fan who found out some sns so they feel the need to IM them constantly. In person, they can know when you're the real deal, but through typing, it's much more difficult.
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Yeah, as long as when you first talk to them you stay away from "omgwtfbbq your band is so great" and that stuff, I guess it's pretty easy to be sincere. That's what I hate about things that get over done, it's hard to make it look sincere.
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the last line of this post made me remember how we were chilling in your backyard. that **** was SO gay dude. we were like a bunch of homosexual european hippies. eating, smoking cigs, playing drums, swimming, sunbathing, sleeping, laughing and frolicking...
...then your parents came and told us we were ok and that God still loved us. they said not to worry about what the other kids said. i'll never forget that.
pat, **** this **** about you being so cool and whatever. you have called me at the most inappropriate hours imaginable about the stupidest **** ever. i'm going to ****ing punch you when we get to arizona. yeah, i mean, we are still friends and all, but prepare for a world of pain.
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trophyscars wrote: i think meaningful music should be the mainstream. we need a little more jimi hendrix and a little less american idol.
i definatly agree man. I just meant that when meaningful music goes mainstream, it loses it's meaning (well, usually is does). It becomes comercial just like american idol. I'm generalizing too much, but it does happen alot (it gets sucked dry).
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trophyscars wrote: but wait, most people have an IQ less than 100; so that probably wont happen
and I think the majority of the blame goes on the fascism in America. Corporations own those weekminded people's souls and consciences. Everyone is always talking about the problems with people/society in this country, but nothing ever happens to change it because the corporations love that shi.t. They love that there are poverty problems. They love that people are shallow. They love that people all think alike. They love that the education system is failing. They love that people are too weak minded to realize this. They love that crime is a problem. It all helps them. The closer we get to a complete distopia, they happier they get. And that is why I don't like things going mainstream, because then these pricks get to manipulate it.
-- Edited by Houdini_The Great at 03:11, 2006-03-02
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the last line of this post made me remember how we were chilling in your backyard. that **** was SO gay dude. we were like a bunch of homosexual european hippies. eating, smoking cigs, playing drums, swimming, sunbathing, sleeping, laughing and frolicking... ...then your parents came and told us we were ok and that God still loved us. they said not to worry about what the other kids said. i'll never forget that. pat, **** this **** about you being so cool and whatever. you have called me at the most inappropriate hours imaginable about the stupidest **** ever. i'm going to ****ing punch you when we get to arizona. yeah, i mean, we are still friends and all, but prepare for a world of pain.
LMAO. Homosexual European maybe, but you certainly didn't help the cause at all by wearing nothing but your underwear around all day and "accidentally" walking in on me getting out of my board shorts. The hippie part was pretty much covered by John scraping the resin out of his bowl for a half hour at my kitchen counter. Well Dan, I'd like to say we share a thing called 'tough love'. You win some you lose some. You call me a fag, I call you at an un-Godly hour to tell you what I mixed with my tonic water and the current consistency of my ****. I love you too, but I've been a regular at the gym...and I own a knife. They don't call me the Arizona Asshole for nothing...and they don't even call me that at all. See you this summer ****-for-cum.
Yeah, well.... just don't answer "hi, what's up" with "nothing, you"... I hate when people do that when first talking to me. I'm thinking "wtf, sup boring l0ser". A much better answer would be "I'm thinking about asking this girl out, but we're really good friends and I don't want to lose that. So, I'm just trying to work it out in my head. Other than that, nothing very much is going on... Only deep thought." (ahem) I see it as you're not a bad person because you don't know the person you're messaging. That's why you're talking to them, you want to know them. Just make sure you have good transitions that keep the conversation going. I don't know, I talk like I know. You really get comfortable at talking with strangers when you used to work as a telemarketer.
You can practice stranger talking with me at: atomwaitscover. Basically, I'm bored and want people to talk with me.
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MissMae wrote: Yeah, well.... just don't answer "hi, what's up" with "nothing, you"... I hate when people do that when first talking to me. I'm thinking "wtf, sup boring l0ser". A much better answer would be "I'm thinking about asking this girl out, but we're really good friends and I don't want to lose that. So, I'm just trying to work it out in my head. Other than that, nothing very much is going on... Only deep thought." (ahem)
ahem, ahem, ahem. amen?
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i think meaningful music should be the mainstream. we need a little more jimi hendrix and a little less american idol.
I disagree. The mainstream is mainstream because of the sole fact its what just happens to popular at that time. More than anything else mainstream stands for nothing more than image. Once your popular its not a factor of sound, only of look. Its more likely to make absolute bull**** and get away with it when people will buy your **** simply because you look cool. The difference between "Pop Music" and "Actual Music" is the fact that "Pop Music" carries no kind of individual artistic value AT ALL. The underground bands make great music because they wont have an million three fans, or clothes, or dollars, or whatever at the end of the day. All they have in the music. They're hungrey and really put more emphasis in their sound as oppossed to their wardrobe. I'd much rather keep things the way they are. We all know good music, ergo let all the little trendy tasteless ****s have their little title.
In the end when we blow them away with the far much more vast musical pallet, they can sit there, holding their balls in the wind with a question mark above their heads going "DOIIII !!!" , while we sit there with the most satisfied grin on our faces at the fact we can actually TELL them, not "imply", or make an "opinion", about what good music is. Honestly, despite what people say, TRUE good music "isn't" a matter or perception. I'm sorry, but whoever considers that utter GARBAGE Hip Hop music (I.E. "Grillzzzzz" by that FUCKBAG Nelly) a "true" piece of musical art, you just need to chop your unmentionables off and let yourself croke from the bloodloss now. It will NEVER be even in the same timezone of DREAMING of being compared to lets say..... "Beethoven's the 5th". It all boils down to what the hell is practical and LOGICAL, as oppossed to trying to be "nice" and letting people have utterly SHITTY opinions. There is a right, and there is a wrong, "Grillzzzzzzz" is WRONG !!!! "The 5th" is RIGHT !!!!! "TROPHY SCARS" is RIGHT !!!!!.......(heavy breathing).....and with that said, I need a nice cold beverage.... I'll be back....But yeah....Jimi for life....FUCK American Idol
